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    Our DBs aren't that good in this system. They get zero help from the rest of the defense to include the DL and LBs. That is because the system is designed to allow the short passes in space and allow the receiver to gain yards after catch. The quick passes negate our DL (our strength) and any pass rush. And, to say our DBs aren't that good is unsettling. Because they haven't been good under Hux and DD. This is not a new development. It's the system. We have to play to our strengths as a whole on defense. Our strength is our DL and LBs and their ability to stuff the run game and pressure the QB. Let's play to force teams to beat us deep consistently by throwing under pressure to a receiver that is getting jammed at the line and forced to alter his route and with a DB daped all over him. This is difficult to do consistently. Sure, they may connect on a couple of plays. It's foolish to think they won't. Then again, we're not facing a Tom Brady every week either. But what is the benefit for us when they don't connect on those deep passes under pressure? A quick 3-out? A fresh defense? A huge advantage in Time of Possession? What is the benefit of maintaining the status quo? Answer: Marshall putting up 350 yards passing on us with 8.1 yards per pass. Wow, lets stop and think about this. We consistently play off their receiver 7-10 yards every play. They average 8.1 yards per pass. Coincidence? It's hard to get off the field defensively giving up 8.1 yards per pass and they go 26-43 in the passing game. Time of Possession was about equal. They were over 50% on 3rd conversion. Needless to say, looking at the stats we got lucky against Marshall. They beat themselves with turnovers and penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfHowl View Post
    Our DBs aren't that good in this system. They get zero help from the rest of the defense to include the DL and LBs. That is because the system is designed to allow the short passes in space and allow the receiver to gain yards after catch. The quick passes negate our DL (our strength) and any pass rush. And, to say our DBs aren't that good is unsettling. Because they haven't been good under Hux and DD. This is not a new development. It's the system. We have to play to our strengths as a whole on defense. Our strength is our DL and LBs and their ability to stuff the run game and pressure the QB. Let's play to force teams to beat us deep consistently by throwing under pressure to a receiver that is getting jammed at the line and forced to alter his route and with a DB daped all over him. This is difficult to do consistently. Sure, they may connect on a couple of plays. It's foolish to think they won't. Then again, we're not facing a Tom Brady every week either. But what is the benefit for us when they don't connect on those deep passes under pressure? A quick 3-out? A fresh defense? A huge advantage in Time of Possession? What is the benefit of maintaining the status quo? Answer: Marshall putting up 350 yards passing on us with 8.1 yards per pass. Wow, lets stop and think about this. We consistently play off their receiver 7-10 yards every play. They average 8.1 yards per pass. Coincidence? It's hard to get off the field defensively giving up 8.1 yards per pass and they go 26-43 in the passing game. Time of Possession was about equal. They were over 50% on 3rd conversion. Needless to say, looking at the stats we got lucky against Marshall. They beat themselves with turnovers and penalties.
    Great breakdown, IMO, WolfHowl. I couldn't agree more. I mean, I hear a whole of complaining on here about Finley not throwing the ball down field, and maybe so, but he would eat our defense alive the way we space. Also, throwing accuracy has to be optimum the longer the throw, the target size gets smaller, and smaller, catching the ball on a dead run is much more difficult, but yet, the NC State defensive scheme seems to be to allow the easy plays, thus IMO, instead of being beaten, you, yourself, are granting the opposition the opportunity to remain viable by them simply having the ability to execute on a very basic level. That is, versus playing to YOUR OWN STRENGTHS while forcing the opposition team to execute some very difficult plays in order to even stay in the game long enough to beat you.

    And like I've said before, this all goes to back to before DD ever arrived to take over, the defensive alignments during TOB's tenure looked pretty much the same... to me anyway.

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    Imagine what a really good defensive coach could do with this team. This is why some people lost their minds about the playoff potential of this team, they looked at the athletes and not at the coaches and their methods.

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